excuse me, but COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEED COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEED COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEE

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FuriousOne;5122213 said:
kingblaze84;5121443 said:
Swiffness!;5121060 said:
kingblaze84;5120643 said:
Beautiful, I will seriously consider moving to Colorado or Washington in the future. Now let's see if the federal govt will still crack down on this (one of the reasons I voted Gary Johnson president tonight)

What can they do? You could theoretically transfer more Fed agents in, but State & Local police make literally 99% of all the weed arrests and there's less than 6,000 DEA agents.

Marijuana will still be prohibited under federal law. But contrary to an argument made by opponents of Proposition 19, the California legalization initiative that lost by five percentage points in 2010, that does not mean the Supremacy Clause makes these measures unconstitutional. As Jonathan Caulkins and three other drug policy scholars note in their new book Marijuana Legalization: What Everyone Needs to Know, "The Constitution does not allow the federal government either to order state governments to create any particular criminal law or to require state and local police to enforce federal criminal laws."

Even under national alcohol prohibition, which unlike the federal ban on marijuana was authorized by a constitutional amendment, states were free to go their own way. They could decline to pass their own versions of the Volstead Act (as Maryland did), repeal them (as a dozen states, including Colorado and Washington, did while the 18th Amendment was still in force), or simply refrain from prosecuting people under them (which was common in the wetter districts of the country). "The question is not whether a state could change its own laws," Caulkins et al. write. "Rather, the question is how the conflict with the continued federal prohibition would play out."

While the feds certainly can make trouble for any state that dares to legalize pot, there is a practical limit to what they can accomplish on their own. According to the FBI, there were about 750,000 marijuana arrests nationwide last year, the vast majority for possession. State and local police departments were responsible for something like 99 percent of those arrests. It simply is not feasible for the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)—which has about 5,500 special agents nationwide, compared to about 765,000 sworn personnel employed by state and local law enforcement agencies—to bust a significant percentage of people who grow pot for themselves and their friends (as Colorado’s initiative allows), let alone people who possess it for recreational use.

The DEA can raid state-legal pot shops, as it has done with medical marijuana dispensaries, but the number of potential targets will be considerably larger once the market officially expands to include recreational users. The Justice Department can use asset forfeiture as an intimidation tactic against landlords and threaten banks that accept deposits from pot businesses with money laundering charges. The Internal Revenue Service can make life difficult for pot sellers by disallowing their business expenses (but not, thanks to a tax law wrinkle, their "cost of goods sold," which includes the cost of buying marijuana). The feds could even threaten state regulators with prosecution for handling marijuana or facilitating the trade, although that seems less likely, since it would provoke a direct confrontation with state officials. (Washington's initiative seeks to minimize this risk by assigning the task of testing marijuana for regulatory purposes to private, state-approved laboratories.) The one thing federal drug warriors cannot do, judging from their track record even when they have the full cooperation of state and local law enforcement agencies, is suppress the business entirely.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/11/07/colorado-and-washington-have-legalized-m

The feds cannot suppress marijuana completely, but they still have the power to shut down any business involved in selling weed, something the feds have been doing more and more over the past 4 years. That's enough to spook many people from setting up medical marijuana shops in the country, word to California. Until the federal govt stops being a bunch of fucking pricks on this issue, marijuana shops are still gona be in fear and won't create the amount of jobs that could be created if there was a pro-marijuana govt around. Or at least a non-intervening one

That's medical marijuana though. legal weed is another story. There is nothing stopping Obama from making it legal or at least stepping aside. He's victorious so getting votes shouldn't be an excuse.

Yeah man, let's hope Obama can see this. His base for the most part supports legalizing it, and most Americans by far now support at a minimum, medical marijuana. Obama's stubbornness on this issue led me to vote 3rd party, but I'll gain respect for him if he stops being a fucking asshole on this issue. There are too many jobs to be created.
 
It's a step in the right direction. Hopefully it doesn't take until all 48 other states have legalized it for the federal gov to legalize it
 
it's nice and all, but until you don't have overriding federal laws, i'm not sure what it means

kingblaze84;5120643 said:
Beautiful, I will seriously consider moving to Colorado or Washington in the future. Now let's see if the federal govt will still crack down on this (one of the reasons I voted Gary Johnson president tonight)
Gary Johnson: bringing together the presidential votes of janklow and kingblaze84 since 2012

 
OKAY, this is exactly why I strongly dislike Obama........
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-victories-could-short-lived-022257328.html

(Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

--The sad thing about this story is that although this testimony comes from a former Obama drug czar, Obama has been quiet on the legalization success in the two states. Considering his history of cracking down on medical marijuana, anyone who thinks Obama is a friend to the pro-marijuana movement better keep on smoking.
 
janklow;5124435 said:
it's nice and all, but until you don't have overriding federal laws, i'm not sure what it means

kingblaze84;5120643 said:
Beautiful, I will seriously consider moving to Colorado or Washington in the future. Now let's see if the federal govt will still crack down on this (one of the reasons I voted Gary Johnson president tonight)
Gary Johnson: bringing together the presidential votes of janklow and kingblaze84 since 2012

An honorable vote for an honorable man. I wish Gary Johnson was elected yesterday, I didn't feel anything at all when I found out Obama won, just a feeling things would stay the same.
 
kingblaze84;5124537 said:
OKAY, this is exactly why I strongly dislike Obama........
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-victories-could-short-lived-022257328.html

(Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

--The sad thing about this story is that although this testimony comes from a former Obama drug czar, Obama has been quiet on the legalization success in the two states. Considering his history of cracking down on medical marijuana, anyone who thinks Obama is a friend to the pro-marijuana movement better keep on smoking.

Give him a minute, he isnt running for anything anymore so he doesnt have to bullshit about things like this. He'll either drop the opposition or just fein ambivalence to it.
 
rage;5125490 said:
kingblaze84;5124537 said:
OKAY, this is exactly why I strongly dislike Obama........
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-victories-could-short-lived-022257328.html

(Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

--The sad thing about this story is that although this testimony comes from a former Obama drug czar, Obama has been quiet on the legalization success in the two states. Considering his history of cracking down on medical marijuana, anyone who thinks Obama is a friend to the pro-marijuana movement better keep on smoking.

Give him a minute, he isnt running for anything anymore so he doesnt have to bullshit about things like this. He'll either drop the opposition or just fein ambivalence to it.

I doubt it highly. Obama should know by now MOST Americans support medical marijuana at a minimum, and he still opposed it. Now that recreational marijuana is legal in some states, I'm willing to bet he'll crack down hard on any businesses that sell it now, just like his bitch ass did in California.
 
jpeezygoinham got one rule for all yall outta staters talkin bout movin to "THE MILE HIGH CITY", you must match one with ur truly!!!!! lol
 
this was something the people voted for

and amazingly we have cats here still arguing voting doesn't change anything???
 
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kingblaze84;5124537 said:
OKAY, this is exactly why I strongly dislike Obama........
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-victories-could-short-lived-022257328.html

(Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

--The sad thing about this story is that although this testimony comes from a former Obama drug czar, Obama has been quiet on the legalization success in the two states. Considering his history of cracking down on medical marijuana, anyone who thinks Obama is a friend to the pro-marijuana movement better keep on smoking.

This does not appear to be the words of Obama but a former adviser of his drug Zar. he is giving his opinion on what could happen but he does not have inside knowledge of what will happened being that he carries the title of 'former'.
 
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FuriousOne;5129187 said:
kingblaze84;5124537 said:
OKAY, this is exactly why I strongly dislike Obama........
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-legalization-victories-could-short-lived-022257328.html

(Reuters) - Votes making Colorado and Washington the first U.S. states to legalize marijuana for recreational use could be short-lived victories for pot backers because the federal government will fight them, two former U.S. drug control officials said on Wednesday.

They said the federal government could sue to block parts of the measures or send threatening letters to marijuana shops, followed up by street-level clampdowns similar to those targeting medical marijuana dispensaries the government suspects are fronts for drug traffickers.

"This is a symbolic victory for (legalization) advocates, but it will be short-lived," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the Obama administration's drug czar, told reporters.

"They are facing an uphill battle with implementing this, in the face of ... presidential opposition and in the face of federal enforcement opposition," Sabet said.

--The sad thing about this story is that although this testimony comes from a former Obama drug czar, Obama has been quiet on the legalization success in the two states. Considering his history of cracking down on medical marijuana, anyone who thinks Obama is a friend to the pro-marijuana movement better keep on smoking.

This does not appear to be the words of Obama but a former adviser of his drug Zar. he is giving his opinion on what could happen but he does not have inside knowledge of what will happened being that he carries the title of 'former'.

Based on Obama's first term, I see no reason to believe he will change his stupid positions on marijuana. I hope to be proven wrong.
 
Fellow pot smokers (i'm rolling some now), should we take Obama's silence on this issue for a sign of optimism? Maybe he won't be a cowardly bitch on this issue anymore?
 
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Black_Samson;5133011 said:
he's always said that it's a states issue... we'll see...
has he not said this while continuing to allow federal authorities to clamp down on state-approved marijuana distribution as they see fit?

 

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