Do people really think Big was a top 5 lyricist?

nah ....

his flow was very nice though ....

 

[loch121]

Yes.BIG found away to make east coast music cross over and sale.The impact of Ready To Die was huge.There are few ppl who can be lyrical and commercial.BIG is that blueprint.He was also super witty and had some very unorthodox rhyme patterns if you really listen.He could be simple,but he could also be very witty.He's in my top 5 because of skill and impact on the game.Niggas still copying BIG and Puff's formula

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

naw he was corny and overrated...

 

[alphajjc]

Nah he wasn't top 5.

Top 5in no particular order)

Nas

Rakim

Masta Ace

Kool G Rap

Pharoahe Monch

 

[alphajjc]

People are hating on Biggie because they dont consider him to be a top 5 lyricist........................?

 

[KeepinItHundred]

u already know that this board has mad hate BIG...

y bother asking it here?

why not?

i don't notice any extra big hate, outside tomp.

 

[KeepinItHundred]

no, but this forum is skewed against giving the dude his props...

this will just be another BIG hate thread...

"he overrated... blah blah blah..."

do you consider him top 5 lyrically or not?

 

[nkflier23]

Yup top 5 DOA overall too

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

Lol not even close.

 

[...MVP...]

Yes.BIG found away to make east coast music cross over and sale.The impact of Ready To Die was huge.There are few ppl who can be lyrical and commercial.BIG is that blueprint.He was also super witty and had some very unorthodox rhyme patterns if you really listen.He could be simple,but he could also be very witty.He's in my top 5 because of skill and impact on the game.Niggas still copying BIG and Puff's formula

Biggie did that? Or Diddy is responsible for that?

 

[KeepinItHundred]

Yes.BIG found away to make east coast music cross over and sale.The impact of Ready To Die was huge.There are few ppl who can be lyrical and commercial.BIG is that blueprint.He was also super witty and had some very unorthodox rhyme patterns if you really listen.He could be simple,but he could also be very witty.He's in my top 5 because of skill and impact on the game.Niggas still copying BIG and Puff's formula

Biggie did that? Or Diddy is responsible for that?

i was waiting for somebody to say something about that

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

No, not at all. His stories were epic and have to be considered for that, but overall as a lyricist no.

 

[stealthbomber]

top 5 story teller but not lyricist

 

[georgia boi]

An argument could be made for him, even though I can think 5 better lyricists. There's a lot of lyricists that don't have the range that Biggie did. Sure, they can rhyme a crazy amount of syllables and wow w/ effect. The difference is Biggie did a lot w/ less and still manage to have an affect. For example, he could still make club bangers and songs for females without sacrificing his skill. Those songs took him beyond just being a great mixtape rapper and had people on the floor, but the streets could still feel it. That's what I mean by affect vs. effect.

 

[a_list]

id say top 10.....lol i see one of the regularbashers couldnt pass up this thread

 

[Sweet Dick Willie]

I'll admit the ic changed my view on B.I.G. and a lot of other rappers. Before the ic I never broke an emcee down to flow, lyrics, cadence, delivery, etc. it was if you could make me rewind your verse, you had bars. I always liked Biggie's flow and storytelling but not so much his lyrics.

 

[usmarin3]

the word is "sell" not "sale". Sell is a verb and sale is a noun.

 

[Gen. Stasia]

I believe so. To be able to tell a story so vivid with the right about of description, dialogue and action u have to be lyrical.

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Damn you are some sensitive homotional lil tricks Lyrically Nasir, Kurupt, Mos Def, Rakim, Big L, Gza, Jay-Z, Eminem, Big Pun, Ras Kass, Redman, Pharoahe Monch, Canibus, Kool G Rap, Twista, Treach, Masta Ace, Immortal Tech, etc...

All lyrically superior and that is just off the top of the head...

 

[H-Rap 180]

Hell to the No!