stringer bell;d-557591 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2JxuOGppNY
Carmen Bryan, Nas' ex and friend of Jay Z, continues telling her story here, taking Vlad through the fallout after "Takeover," "Ether," and "Super Ugly," Cam'ron's remarks towards her and her daughter, and the lasting impression of the Jay Z-Nas beef. "Nas won the battle but lost the war," Carmen says, "He gave in [to Jay Z] at the end."
She would know better than I. However, she has more of a reason to be biased. But I don't see how Nas or Jay can lose outside of the lyrical battle context. Both can and do have fine women. Can travel the world. Have expensive homes and cars etc etc. Neither of them are losing.