But what about Kansas (and Louisiana)?

[A Talented One]

If any of these men are elected president, they will almost certainly take office with a House and Senate eager to scale up the “red-state model.” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said of Brownback’s Kansas, “This is exactly the sort of thing we (Republicans) want to do here, in Washington, but can’t, at least for now.” Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s celebrated budgets all depend on the same magical growth that has somehow escaped the Sunflower State.

This campaign cycle has inspired an unusual amount of soul-searching in Republican circles. The rise of Trump has forced many conservatives to reckon with the moral odiousness of Nixon’s Southern Strategy — a blueprint for GOP electoral success that relied on coded appeals to white racial animus. Unfortunately, the fall of Kansas has failed to inspire a similar reckoning with the policies that those ugly advertisements were designed to sell. The GOP front-runner’s praise of mob violence and religious discrimination has spurred much righteous outrage from the National Review. Kansas’s shortened school-years have spurred none.

When Donald Trump makes a gaffe, reporters confront Republican leaders and demand a response. When the GOP's economic platform decimates two U.S. states, a similar confrontation is in order.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/gop-must-answer-for-what-it-did-to-kansas.html

 

[SolemnSauce]

Bruh, we all know conservatism is bullshit that only serves people who already influential. With little dibs and dabs here and there to regular folk to make it seem like its a working model.

But trill talk...nobody cares..

We all know pinky gets ran thru by the porn industry and male entertainers..I'd body that pussy raw fam...full affect...broad day..g money

 

[Shizlansky]

Louisiana last Governor took over with a surplus and left with a huge deficit.

 

[D0wn]

@zzombie ,u looking funny in the light this week, aint that right?

 

[zzombie]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

 

[Like Water]

G.Damn. This shit is all the way fucked up. To Louisiana: How the fuck does your budget go through 2.5 billion dollars? And how the fuck does no one say anything about it?

In Kansas, people unlawfully being thrown off Medicaid, and their tax revenue proposal being off by a billion dollars? Da fuck?

And no one gives a fuck, it seems. Smh. The movie Idiocracy is like a year away from being entirely accurate.

 

[IceManKam]

LA is known for crooked politicians sapping money away like a baby on its mother bosom

 

[Copper]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Then why were you supporting rubio?

 

[zzombie]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Then why were you supporting rubio?

He was the best of the worst who the fuck else was i going to support???? i just don't like ted cruz for some reason and rand paul is too libertarian on social issues and bush is a bush

trump??? carson??? fuck no and the rest i had no interest in.

 

[Stiff]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Then why were you supporting rubio?

He was the best of the worst who the fuck else was i going to support???? i just don't like ted cruz for some reason and rand paul is too libertarian on social issues and bush is a bush

trump??? carson??? fuck no and the rest i had no interest in.

Is personal liberty a pillar of true conservatism?

 

[zzombie]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Then why were you supporting rubio?

He was the best of the worst who the fuck else was i going to support???? i just don't like ted cruz for some reason and rand paul is too libertarian on social issues and bush is a bush

trump??? carson??? fuck no and the rest i had no interest in.

Is personal liberty a pillar of true conservatism?

With limits. conservatism wants as much liberty as possible without losing social cohesion. Unlike libertarians we have a certain moral perspective.

 

[A Talented One]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Are you trying to say that what happened in Kansas and Louisiana doesn't discredit conservative ideas about economic growth and prosperity?

 

[zzombie]

what people have to understand is that the modern republican party does not practice free market capitalism and they are not true conservatives and neither is their constituency which also explains why Donald trump is so popular among so called republicans because he's not a conservative either.

which is why i keep saying i am not a repulbican

Are you trying to say that what happened in Kansas and Louisiana doesn't discredit conservative ideas about economic growth and prosperity?

basically because they did not govern those states by conservative principles they used crony capitalism despite what people think conservatism is not just about a blanket policies of cutting all taxes with no regard. Notice how this article goes in on this false application of conservatism but barely mentions that the policies of Bernie sanders also failed in his home state.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm sure you could find some states where democratic ideas have failed. Partisan politics are stupid. In what world, do one set of extremes ever represent the best solution. In your own personal finances, are you always frugal or always spendy or do you change what you do based on the circumstances you face?

 

[jono]

They discussed Vermont's failure

 

[A Talented One]

I'm sure you could find some states where democratic ideas have failed. Partisan politics are stupid. In what world, do one set of extremes ever represent the best solution. In your own personal finances, are you always frugal or always spendy or do you change what you do based on the circumstances you face?

Sounds like you are saying that Republican ideas represent one extreme and Democratic ones represent another, and that there is a sensible moderate position that is in between these two extremes.

If that is what you are saying, you are wrong. Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate. Democrats have actually learned from past policy failures; Republicans have not.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm sure you could find some states where democratic ideas have failed. Partisan politics are stupid. In what world, do one set of extremes ever represent the best solution. In your own personal finances, are you always frugal or always spendy or do you change what you do based on the circumstances you face?

Sounds like you are saying that Republican ideas represent one extreme and Democratic ones represent another, and that there is a sensible moderate position that is in between these two extremes.

If that is what you are saying, you are wrong. Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate. Democrats have actually learned from past policy failures; Republicans have not.

Sanders is two steps away from being a Socialist. In what world is that moderate. And no I'm not saying that the moderate solution is the best because moderates tend to think a middle of the road is always the right option. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the "right" solution changes based on the situation. Sometimes you need to be liberal. Sometimes you need to be conservative. Sometimes you need to be moderate. Anyone that believe there is one stop solution to all problems is an idiot.

 

[A Talented One]

I'm sure you could find some states where democratic ideas have failed. Partisan politics are stupid. In what world, do one set of extremes ever represent the best solution. In your own personal finances, are you always frugal or always spendy or do you change what you do based on the circumstances you face?

Sounds like you are saying that Republican ideas represent one extreme and Democratic ones represent another, and that there is a sensible moderate position that is in between these two extremes.

If that is what you are saying, you are wrong. Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate. Democrats have actually learned from past policy failures; Republicans have not.

Sanders is two steps away from being a Socialist. In what world is that moderate. And no I'm not saying that the moderate solution is the best because moderates tend to think a middle of the road is always the right option. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the "right" solution changes based on the situation. Sometimes you need to be liberal. Sometimes you need to be conservative. Sometimes you need to be moderate. Anyone that believe there is one stop solution to all problems is an idiot.

I explicitly said:

"Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate.

So how you gonna come and say that I'm saying that Sanders is a moderate?

And one can understand 'moderate' in precisely the way that you are suggesting, so that while we should generally not run deficits, for example, there are times when doing so is OK (as when there is a recession and easy money monetary policies are unlikely by themselves to have much effect -- when, that is, deficit spending is needed to prop up weak demand).

 

[MarcusGarvey]

My Solution for Federal Budget

-Keep personal taxes at current level, lower corporate rate, eliminate loopholes, and cut spending (Defense, social security - raise age, means test).

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm sure you could find some states where democratic ideas have failed. Partisan politics are stupid. In what world, do one set of extremes ever represent the best solution. In your own personal finances, are you always frugal or always spendy or do you change what you do based on the circumstances you face?

Sounds like you are saying that Republican ideas represent one extreme and Democratic ones represent another, and that there is a sensible moderate position that is in between these two extremes.

If that is what you are saying, you are wrong. Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate. Democrats have actually learned from past policy failures; Republicans have not.

Sanders is two steps away from being a Socialist. In what world is that moderate. And no I'm not saying that the moderate solution is the best because moderates tend to think a middle of the road is always the right option. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the "right" solution changes based on the situation. Sometimes you need to be liberal. Sometimes you need to be conservative. Sometimes you need to be moderate. Anyone that believe there is one stop solution to all problems is an idiot.

I explicitly said:

"Mainstream Democratic ideas (as represented by people like Obama and Clinton, not Sanders) are moderate.

So how you gonna come and say that I'm saying that Sanders is a moderate?

And one can understand 'moderate' in precisely the way that you are suggesting, so that while we should generally not run deficits, for example, there are times when doing so is OK (as when there is a recession and easy money monetary policies are unlikely by themselves to have much effect -- when, that is, deficit spending is needed to prop up weak demand).

My bad. I misread and didn't see the not.

And I didn't no one could understand moderate as I described it. I said that most that identify themselves as moderates don't think that way. For instance the people you listed as being more moderate are simply less liberal than others. They don't actively explore the other philosophy for possible answers.