Breaking out the 9-5 system

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oh man

shit i made a ton of mistakes to get to where i am.

i guess this thread can be directed to me.

my ability to see problems and track the problem to its source and why it became a problem was something i always loved to do.

since i was small i always loved chemistry.

so i was always either trying to fix something or fukkin with some sort of chemical.

now i cant say i pursued this in life....i went more towards electrician an pc repair.

i just happened to stumble across a job where i can mixed the two things i loved as a kid.

then that turned into starting my own business.

7 and 1/2 years later......im still running strong with so many more places i want to go
 
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The later you start the more you may have to sacrifice. Your spare time, your current job, your income, luxuries, and possibly more. Ive had to sacrifice a lot of that, i couldnt imagine having mouths to feed and pursuing my shit. I completely understand why people choose to not chase their dreams now. It could require a lifestyle change that many people, and families, could not weather. Everyday the thought of going back to my old trade crosses my mind.

Keep supportive people around you. I dont know how id have done this without my parents. The support from other friends and family has also been great. The extra helping hand can be priceless and a great advantage along the way. And if you have to depend on people, make sure its someone that really believes in you.

Remember that most people that achieve great success went through hell to get there. Countless celebrities have stories of being homeless and other fucked up situations to pursue their dream. But they never gave up and now sit on 7 figures in some cases. Youre gonna need patience, drive, and unshakeable faithin yourself.

Pursuing graphic design im doing great so far. My mistake was not doing this sooner, but i doubt i had the mentality for it in my youth. Getting a job to go to school with was the hardest part. Nobody wants to hire a part time weldor around here, but i did get a job, and have some racks to not ask folks for money at least... knock on wood.
 
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kzzl;c-10019803 said:
The later you start the more you may have to sacrifice. Your spare time, your current job, your income, luxuries, and possibly more. Ive had to sacrifice a lot of that, i couldnt imagine having mouths to feed and pursuing my shit. I completely understand why people choose to not chase their dreams now. It could require a lifestyle change that many people, and families, could not weather. Everyday the thought of going back to my old trade crosses my mind.

Keep supportive people around you. I dont know how id have done this without my parents. The support from other friends and family has also been great. The extra helping hand can be priceless and a great advantage along the way. And if you have to depend on people, make sure its someone that really believes in you.

Remember that most people that achieve great success went through hell to get there. Countless celebrities have stories of being homeless and other fucked up situations to pursue their dream. But they never gave up and now sit on 7 figures in some cases. Youre gonna need patience, drive, and unshakeable faithin yourself.

Pursuing graphic design im doing great so far. My mistake was not doing this sooner, but i doubt i had the mentality for it in my youth. Getting a job to go to school with was the hardest part. Nobody wants to hire a part time weldor around here, but i did get a job, and have some racks to not ask folks for money at least... knock on wood.

all this shit is on point....

support is a very major part.

my wife supported me thru the hard times. but she also was on the other side at times too.

but the main supporter should be yourself.

dont listen to negative shit. it can fukk with you when things arent looking so good.

there will be times you doubt yourself or ready to throw in the towel.

there are times you will feel isolated and alone because most dont understand that type struggle and investment and time away from family.

i know my road was a very hard one.

i can not say it has been easy...but once you get into the flow....stay focused cause its very easy to lose focus.

and because careful to not become a slave to your creation.

and this last point for the day....

understand how you think.

you can think w2 or you can think 1099

edit....yea i fukked up my shit talking.
 
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I changed the title and added an edit to the OP in attempt to get a focus more on about the part of escaping the 9-5 and system. And being smart about it.

 
2stepz_ahead;c-10019560 said:
oh man

shit i made a ton of mistakes to get to where i am.

i guess this thread can be directed to me.

my ability to see problems and track the problem to its source and why it became a problem was something i always loved to do.

since i was small i always loved chemistry.

so i was always either trying to fix something or fukkin with some sort of chemical.

now i cant say i pursued this in life....i went more towards electrician an pc repair.

i just happened to stumble across a job where i can mixed the two things i loved as a kid.

then that turned into starting my own business.

7 and 1/2 years later......im still running strong with so many more places i want to go

What made you decide to leave the 9-5, and how did you know it was time to do so.

Good shit
 
kzzl;c-10019803 said:
The later you start the more you may have to sacrifice. Your spare time, your current job, your income, luxuries, and possibly more. Ive had to sacrifice a lot of that, i couldnt imagine having mouths to feed and pursuing my shit. I completely understand why people choose to not chase their dreams now. It could require a lifestyle change that many people, and families, could not weather. Everyday the thought of going back to my old trade crosses my mind.

Keep supportive people around you. I dont know how id have done this without my parents. The support from other friends and family has also been great. The extra helping hand can be priceless and a great advantage along the way. And if you have to depend on people, make sure its someone that really believes in you.

Remember that most people that achieve great success went through hell to get there. Countless celebrities have stories of being homeless and other fucked up situations to pursue their dream. But they never gave up and now sit on 7 figures in some cases. Youre gonna need patience, drive, and unshakeable faithin yourself.

Pursuing graphic design im doing great so far. My mistake was not doing this sooner, but i doubt i had the mentality for it in my youth. Getting a job to go to school with was the hardest part. Nobody wants to hire a part time weldor around here, but i did get a job, and have some racks to not ask folks for money at least... knock on wood.

What's your end goal, to run a successful design firm, become a huge name on your own and land a job with some company you always wanted or what?
 
Fosheezy;c-10020066 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10019560 said:
oh man

shit i made a ton of mistakes to get to where i am.

i guess this thread can be directed to me.

my ability to see problems and track the problem to its source and why it became a problem was something i always loved to do.

since i was small i always loved chemistry.

so i was always either trying to fix something or fukkin with some sort of chemical.

now i cant say i pursued this in life....i went more towards electrician an pc repair.

i just happened to stumble across a job where i can mixed the two things i loved as a kid.

then that turned into starting my own business.

7 and 1/2 years later......im still running strong with so many more places i want to go

What made you decide to leave the 9-5, and how did you know it was time to do so.

Good shit

Two thing's ...

1. I saw an invoice. Just 1 was worth a quarter of what I made a year.

2. I found out I was the lowest paid but covering my area an doing clean up for others.
 
After working a "good job" at a corporation for 6 years making pretty good money, but not being happy, I quit at age 26 to pursue creative goals. since then I've been the happiest I've ever been felt extremely liberated, but after I had quit my "good job" the financial stress started to squeeze me as I was in a house and had to pay car note and utilizes living on savings. So I bailed and moved back with my parents at 26 which was kinda like a huge L for me.

I've been more or less broke since leaving the "good job", but like I said I've been happier overall. I decided I have only one life and there's way too little time to spend a life stressing over a bunch of stuff that really don't matter and not doing the things that lead to living a more fulfilling happier lifestyle personally and professionally.

More and more jobs seem like they are becoming more and more temporary and less secure. I think more and more people will be able to simply live off their own networks due to technology and global market. I'm trying to figure that part of the puzzle out.

even though I still haven't got the huge break I want at least I've had time to figure out what I want to do and I've been inching my way slowly towards my creative dream... it took me a lot of time of soaking up game and trying to learn different financial strategies that will allow me to live a more independent lifestyle and have the time to pursue whatever I like but it took me till around 32 to figure out how I want to go about doing it. I'm working on getting more organized, as I've learned I failed on that part. I'm not necessarily against a day job but I don't think it should be your only source.
 
@Fosheezy ...Very inspiring personal testament. TY. I Worked top notch jobs with no degree for 2 of the 5 most recognized companies in the World. One was cool but the other SMH. I was face to face with clients daily and the job got me so down, would brush my teeth, clean up and bounce. Realized I hadn't look in the mirror @ my face all week. Bags, stubble my whole aura was off and fam sensed it too. Remember the " How much u ever made thread?". My offer was 80k! Brother told me they're gonna own u and it bcame a curse. Only did it to prove to myself I could pass all the tests, panel interviews and succeed. I did but lost my identity chasing bread. Quit that shit in grace and moved. Now, salary ain't even what I ask about. I'm more concerned with my P.O.M. and happiness. Once u've lost that but got it back one will understand it's priceless. Baba Gregory said: "Where ya heart lies, that's where U'll find ya true treasures." Thanks Baba G ( RIP). I'm good now and looking 2 jump in2 a whole different business sector with this confidence.
 
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Fosheezy;c-10020068 said:
kzzl;c-10019803 said:
The later you start the more you may have to sacrifice. Your spare time, your current job, your income, luxuries, and possibly more. Ive had to sacrifice a lot of that, i couldnt imagine having mouths to feed and pursuing my shit. I completely understand why people choose to not chase their dreams now. It could require a lifestyle change that many people, and families, could not weather. Everyday the thought of going back to my old trade crosses my mind.

Keep supportive people around you. I dont know how id have done this without my parents. The support from other friends and family has also been great. The extra helping hand can be priceless and a great advantage along the way. And if you have to depend on people, make sure its someone that really believes in you.

Remember that most people that achieve great success went through hell to get there. Countless celebrities have stories of being homeless and other fucked up situations to pursue their dream. But they never gave up and now sit on 7 figures in some cases. Youre gonna need patience, drive, and unshakeable faithin yourself.

Pursuing graphic design im doing great so far. My mistake was not doing this sooner, but i doubt i had the mentality for it in my youth. Getting a job to go to school with was the hardest part. Nobody wants to hire a part time weldor around here, but i did get a job, and have some racks to not ask folks for money at least... knock on wood.

What's your end goal, to run a successful design firm, become a huge name on your own and land a job with some company you always wanted or what?

To make enough to live off commissions would be ideal. BUT if theres a cozy enough position offered, id roll with a company. Long as i can make my own stuff on the side to do both. The real achievements gonna be seeing some stacks dropped when i sale a canvas. All up in a galleria somewhere, maybe my own print shop, the black stan lee, clothing graphics, shit... aint no ceiling once i get official.

 
rickmogul;c-10020354 said:
@Fosheezy ...Very inspiring personal testament. TY. I Worked top notch jobs with no degree for 2 of the 5 most recognized companies in the World. One was cool but the other SMH. I was face to face with clients daily and the job got me so down, would brush my teeth, clean up and bounce. Realized I hadn't look in the mirror @ my face all week. Bags, stubble my whole aura was off and fam sensed it too. Remember the " How much u ever made thread?". My offer was 80k! Brother told me they're gonna own u and it bcame a curse. Only did it to prove to myself I could pass all the tests, panel interviews and succeed. I did but lost my identity chasing bread. Quit that shit in grace and moved. Now, salary ain't even what I ask about. I'm more concerned with my P.O.M. and happiness. Once u've lost that but got it back one will understand it's priceless. Baba Gregory said: "Where ya heart lies, that's where U'll find ya true treasures." Thanks Baba G ( RIP). I'm good now and looking 2 jump in2 a whole different business sector with this confidence.

No doubt bruh, I didn't expect to spark nothing in anyone, I just felt a need to put that out there..I had to write it. Cool to know if it resonate with ya, I know not everyone can feel that.

Yea you gotta do what's best for you and focus on the things that contribute more value to your life personally in order to stay inspired.
 
kzzl;c-10020513 said:
Fosheezy;c-10020068 said:
kzzl;c-10019803 said:
The later you start the more you may have to sacrifice. Your spare time, your current job, your income, luxuries, and possibly more. Ive had to sacrifice a lot of that, i couldnt imagine having mouths to feed and pursuing my shit. I completely understand why people choose to not chase their dreams now. It could require a lifestyle change that many people, and families, could not weather. Everyday the thought of going back to my old trade crosses my mind.

Keep supportive people around you. I dont know how id have done this without my parents. The support from other friends and family has also been great. The extra helping hand can be priceless and a great advantage along the way. And if you have to depend on people, make sure its someone that really believes in you.

Remember that most people that achieve great success went through hell to get there. Countless celebrities have stories of being homeless and other fucked up situations to pursue their dream. But they never gave up and now sit on 7 figures in some cases. Youre gonna need patience, drive, and unshakeable faithin yourself.

Pursuing graphic design im doing great so far. My mistake was not doing this sooner, but i doubt i had the mentality for it in my youth. Getting a job to go to school with was the hardest part. Nobody wants to hire a part time weldor around here, but i did get a job, and have some racks to not ask folks for money at least... knock on wood.

What's your end goal, to run a successful design firm, become a huge name on your own and land a job with some company you always wanted or what?

To make enough to live off commissions would be ideal. BUT if theres a cozy enough position offered, id roll with a company. Long as i can make my own stuff on the side to do both. The real achievements gonna be seeing some stacks dropped when i sale a canvas. All up in a galleria somewhere, maybe my own print shop, the black stan lee, clothing graphics, shit... aint no ceiling once i get official.

Man, that's hella doable. The biggest part for me was creating a situation and space where I actually make and thereby have the time to focus on my arts work....that's all I wanna do is keep creating stuff till I can't do no more and I wanna take it as far as it can go. I invested a lot in this arts world, I think more people should.
 
2stepz_ahead;c-10019878 said:
you can think 1040 or you can think 1099

LOL @ you saying this statement like u are making some type of valid point

those two items aren't mutually exclusive, but I ain't gon call u out again in this thread @2stepz_ahead

:(

 
what worked for me was being willing to downgrade and not worrying about rank/status

at 1st I got caught up in worrying about maintaining so much that I ended up on a limited track

I started from a minimum wage job to later transitioning to the military

initially in the military I was just happy to have a job, so I thought I was doing well and happy cuz there was an expected path for me to follow

then I started working with these officers and this one cat who had a business he ran with his father..........cuzzo was my subordinate, but was caking way more money than me to the point I felt stupid......he ultimately encouraged me to get my college degree

funny enough the same cat and his father gave me my 1st real job once I got out of the Army.......then eventually I broke out to do my own thing

the biggest thing that helped was when I changed my mindset to stop being so limited........too many of us who come from humble backgrounds allow other people to label/define us...........then we end up living up to other people's labels instead of really trying to go out and do what we really want to do

once I downgraded and was willing to damn near drive a bucket and live in a small ass house, I was able to really stack bread

now ironically I got more shit than I ever thought I could have back when I thought when I was doing well in the Army

seems like t/s is already on the right path to living the way u really want to........fuck a 9-5 if u can help it IMO
 
Digging that.

Ain’t no thing, go ahead and call out @2stepz_ahead ...he can handle it. Lol

I know a lot of ppl find it hard to be honest, and I’m not saying you gotta be overly honest or too detailed but sharing mistakes with other is a good way to build as community.
 
Fosheezy;c-10023963 said:
Digging that.

Ain’t no thing, go ahead and call out @2stepz_ahead ...he can handle it. Lol

I know a lot of ppl find it hard to be honest, and I’m not saying you gotta be overly honest or too detailed but sharing mistakes with other is a good way to build as community.

nah......he actually can't handle it LMAO

it don't work out well when me and him go at it..........I just end up getting looked at as the bully for pointing out what should be obvious SMH

for instance, in his statement he alluded to either a 1040 or 1099

but a 1099 is basically a paystub for a contractor in lieu of an employee

a 1040 is the tax form everybody has to file if they make enough money......and there are multiple versions of the 1040 tax form, ie. 1040 EZ, 1040A, 1040X etc

so how is there a choice in thinking 1040 vs 1099 when they are still related?

it would have been better if he said W2 vs 1099 (then it would've made sense)

but of course anyone really getting money like that shouldn't expect a balling ass nigga like @2stepz_ahead to use such obvious money related terms the correct way, right? :lol:
 
blakfyahking;c-10023982 said:
Fosheezy;c-10023963 said:
Digging that.

Ain’t no thing, go ahead and call out @2stepz_ahead ...he can handle it. Lol

I know a lot of ppl find it hard to be honest, and I’m not saying you gotta be overly honest or too detailed but sharing mistakes with other is a good way to build as community.

nah......he actually can't handle it LMAO

it don't work out well when me and him go at it..........I just end up getting looked at as the bully for pointing out what should be obvious SMH

for instance, in his statement he alluded to either a 1040 or 1099

but a 1099 is basically a paystub for a contractor in lieu of an employee

a 1040 is the tax form everybody has to file if they make enough money......and there are multiple versions of the 1040 tax form, ie. 1040 EZ, 1040A, 1040X etc

so how is there a choice in thinking 1040 vs 1099 when they are still related?

it would have been better if he said W2 vs 1099 (then it would've made sense)

but of course anyone really getting money like that shouldn't expect a balling ass nigga like @2stepz_ahead to use such obvious money related terms the correct way, right? :lol:

lmao

hey i fukked up an you right.

honestly just a typo from me overthinking

w2 vs 1099.

1099 goes to 1040. as does the w2.

im taking a tax class and shit got me mad confused and i typed the wrong thing...i own that.

he got me...got me good too.

smdh

i can handle it.

i posted about this like two weeks ago about tax kicking my ass and wanting to understand it more.

im getting tired of paying someone to do it and my shit just got more complicated.

@blakfyahking nigga i can appreciate someone correcting or catching my fukk ups. an know i can admit when i am wrong.

this time i am totally wrong.

 
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2stepz_ahead;c-9961012 said:
Go figure;c-9954413 said:
man i've been wanting to get into this but i've been busy trying to learn filing taxes on my own under s corp bc im paying a bookkeeping company 80/mo. i still dont trust myself all the way to go on my own cuz irs is a dirty bitch.

i was just wondering though how long some of u have been investing, how many companies u have since u started and the amount of dividends u currently receive monthly or yearly.

i wanna get started in this like asap, just need to research and sign up thru some of the brokers u guys mentioned

man...I'm trying to do the same...

we need a tax thread.

IRS is mad confusing.across multiple states an too add I have Swiss taxes that are worse...the Dominican shit is the easiest.

taxes are a bitch.

just be glad you only paying 80/month an in one country.

 
Fosheezy;c-10020257 said:
After working a "good job" at a corporation for 6 years making pretty good money, but not being happy, I quit at age 26 to pursue creative goals. since then I've been the happiest I've ever been felt extremely liberated, but after I had quit my "good job" the financial stress started to squeeze me as I was in a house and had to pay car note and utilizes living on savings. So I bailed and moved back with my parents at 26 which was kinda like a huge L for me.

I've been more or less broke since leaving the "good job", but like I said I've been happier overall. I decided I have only one life and there's way too little time to spend a life stressing over a bunch of stuff that really don't matter and not doing the things that lead to living a more fulfilling happier lifestyle personally and professionally.

More and more jobs seem like they are becoming more and more temporary and less secure. I think more and more people will be able to simply live off their own networks due to technology and global market. I'm trying to figure that part of the puzzle out.

even though I still haven't got the huge break I want at least I've had time to figure out what I want to do and I've been inching my way slowly towards my creative dream... it took me a lot of time of soaking up game and trying to learn different financial strategies that will allow me to live a more independent lifestyle and have the time to pursue whatever I like but it took me till around 32 to figure out how I want to go about doing it. I'm working on getting more organized, as I've learned I failed on that part. I'm not necessarily against a day job but I don't think it should be your only source.

So, 32 still living wit moms?
 
Lurkristocrat ;c-10024092 said:
Fosheezy;c-10020257 said:
After working a "good job" at a corporation for 6 years making pretty good money, but not being happy, I quit at age 26 to pursue creative goals. since then I've been the happiest I've ever been felt extremely liberated, but after I had quit my "good job" the financial stress started to squeeze me as I was in a house and had to pay car note and utilizes living on savings. So I bailed and moved back with my parents at 26 which was kinda like a huge L for me.

I've been more or less broke since leaving the "good job", but like I said I've been happier overall. I decided I have only one life and there's way too little time to spend a life stressing over a bunch of stuff that really don't matter and not doing the things that lead to living a more fulfilling happier lifestyle personally and professionally.

More and more jobs seem like they are becoming more and more temporary and less secure. I think more and more people will be able to simply live off their own networks due to technology and global market. I'm trying to figure that part of the puzzle out.

even though I still haven't got the huge break I want at least I've had time to figure out what I want to do and I've been inching my way slowly towards my creative dream... it took me a lot of time of soaking up game and trying to learn different financial strategies that will allow me to live a more independent lifestyle and have the time to pursue whatever I like but it took me till around 32 to figure out how I want to go about doing it. I'm working on getting more organized, as I've learned I failed on that part. I'm not necessarily against a day job but I don't think it should be your only source.

So, 32 still living wit moms?

Nah I forgot to mention i only stayed with my parents for about 8 months before leaving again a few months after I got another day job. I admit I would’ve stayed longer if I could, so I could at least save more (I was in a both a legal and financial strain at the time), but my parents and I bump heads too much, so I had to get tf. Make no mistake, even while there it wasn’t a free ride.... I still PAID. But it was half of what I would pay elsewhere..and plus car note, insurance, phone and TWO storage units because of course I couldn’t bring all my stuff to my parents. And after I left again, I been renting ever since. Not really happy about that because I originally wanted to be owning by 30 at least. But i didn’t have the proper knowledge nor finances by then. Due to decisions I made, I was paying for it. Catching a case, being irresponsible and all that... I had to have roommates for past few years just to be sure I can get my financial health back in check. Payed my car off like 2 years ago. Paid off debts. At the top of last year 2016 my credit score was 560ish. As of this moment I’m at 688ish and on track to purchase my first piece of property next year.
 

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