As a christian, is there a such thing as putting too much emphasis on christ?

[konceptjones]

Meaning...

In church, speaking to ones self, praying, etc.. Christians call out on jesus for everything, more so than they do god...

God is to be worshipped and not jesus, right or wrong?

Yes jesus is the savior but god is the creator and i know that you cant get to god w/o going through

jesus.

So with that being said, is it a sin or bad to; how can i say this... Replace christ with god?

And they wonder why most of their prayers go unanswered...

First and foremost, his name was not Jesus. If your name is Tom, and people try to get your attention by calling you "Brian", would you listen? No, because that is not your name. You may check over your shoulder to see who they're calling for, and only when you realize that someone was trying to speak to you will you respond, but generally you won't answer.

His name was Yeshua (PBUH). This is his name and He should be addressed as such. And don't run any garbage about translations or anything like that either: An American man named Michael will not respond to his Spanish translated name of Miguel.

Second, God clearly states as one of his commandments: "(Exodous 20:3)Do not have any other gods before me". To call the name of another and to hold another holy IS the worship of another god, irregardless of the semantics surrounding Yeshua's (PBUH) status as son of God, or God in the flesh. This is something He has made explicitly clear.

Third: You know that cross that the Christian holds as holy as well and prays to it? How about the statue of Mary that many pray to as well? That picture of "Jesus" (who, IIRC, is really Michaelangelo's brother)??? Yeah, God also spoke out against that as well: "(Exodous 20:4-6)You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Knowing all of this (and there's so much more to go with this little tidbit), anyone can come to the conclusion that to pray to ANYONE other than God is a sin.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Jesus Christ is God my brother. Nobody can put enough emphasis on Jesus Christ. "As for me, may I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ" Galatians 6:14

 

[judahxulu]

And they wonder why most of their prayers go unanswered...

First and foremost, his name was not Jesus. If your name is Tom, and people try to get your attention by calling you "Brian", would you listen? No, because that is not your name. You may check over your shoulder to see who they're calling for, and only when you realize that someone was trying to speak to you will you respond, but generally you won't answer.

His name was Yeshua (PBUH). This is his name and He should be addressed as such. And don't run any garbage about translations or anything like that either: An American man named Michael will not respond to his Spanish translated name of Miguel.

Second, God clearly states as one of his commandments: "(Exodous 20:3)Do not have any other gods before me". To call the name of another and to hold another holy IS the worship of another god, irregardless of the semantics surrounding Yeshua's (PBUH) status as son of God, or God in the flesh. This is something He has made explicitly clear.

Third: You know that cross that the Christian holds as holy as well and prays to it? How about the statue of Mary that many pray to as well? That picture of "Jesus" (who, IIRC, is really Michaelangelo's brother)??? Yeah, God also spoke out against that as well: "(Exodous 20:4-6)You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me, but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Knowing all of this (and there's so much more to go with this little tidbit), anyone can come to the conclusion that to pray to ANYONE other than God is a sin.

Bing! The nail has been hit on its head.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Meaning...

In church, speaking to ones self, praying, etc.. Christians call out on jesus for everything, more so than they do god...

God is to be worshipped and not jesus, right or wrong?

Yes jesus is the savior but god is the creator and i know that you cant get to god w/o going through

jesus.

So with that being said, is it a sin or bad to; how can i say this... Replace christ with god?

I would have to agree that Christians put too much emphasis on Jesus. There is no doubt he should be revered. However, I'm not sure he should be put on the same level as God. After all, Jesus never put himself on that level. Also there are these verses:

Mark 10: 17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

Seems to me Jesus is rebuking a follower for praising him, and saying the praise should instead be shifted to God. If Jesus would stop someone from simply calling him good, what do you think he would say about the amount of praise given to him by modern Christians?

 

[DRO]

jesus christ is god my brother. Nobody can put enough emphasis on jesus christ. "as for me, may i never boast about anything except the cross of our lord jesus christ" galatians 6:14

come on reggie bush lil brother...

Jesus is not god, and u know it...

Im not saying that jesus should be emphasised, but people (and you) actually think god and jesus is the same and they're not...

Jesus even calls god his father and jesus doesnt even know when the world will end, but his father does.

 

[DRO]

i would have to agree that christians put too much emphasis on jesus. There is no doubt he should be revered. However, i'm not sure he should be put on the same level as god. After all, jesus never put himself on that level. Also there are these verses:

mark 10: 17 as jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "good teacher," he asked, "what must i do to inherit eternal life?" 18 "why do you call me good?" jesus answered. "no one is good—except god alone.

seems to me jesus is rebuking a follower for praising him, and saying the praise should instead be shifted to god. If jesus would stop someone from simply calling him good, what do you think he would say about the amount of praise given to him by modern christians?

...good ish

 

[adagreat]

you say ur a christian, so how can you seperate the son and the father when they make up 2 thrirds of who god really is?(son father and holy ghost) you sure ur not a jehovah witness?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

come on reggie bush lil brother...

Jesus is not god, and u know it...
Im not saying that jesus should be emphasised, but people (and you) actually think god and jesus is the same and they're not...

Jesus even calls god his father and jesus doesnt even know when the world will end, but his father does.

1. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ is God. It's called the trinity.

2. Knowingly and willingly Denying the deity of Christ really calls into account your salvation.

3. If you want understanding in regards to this issue, pray that the Lord will open up your heart, mind, and soul to this essential truth and then study His word to show yourself approved unto God.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

you say ur a christian, so how can you seperate the son and the father when they make up 2 thrirds of who god really is?(son father and holy ghost) you sure ur not a jehovah witness?

Excellent questions.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

If you can't follow the message how can you follow the messenger to get to god?

 

[konceptjones]

Jesus Christ is God my brother. Nobody can put enough emphasis on Jesus Christ. "As for me, may I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ" Galatians 6:14

Incorrect. The matter of whether Yeshua(PBUH) was, in fact, God or man was decided BY MEN, not by The Divine. Prior to the convening of the First Nicaean Council, there were two beliefs regarding Yeshua(PBUH)

The first was that of Arius, a church leader from Egypt. This belief was that the concept of Christ is that the Son of God did not always exist, but was created by, and is therefore distinct from and inferior to, God. There were, and still are, many that follow this. Indeed the reach of this view was quite widespread throughout the Mediterranean, as his followers had influence there and beyond.

The second was that of Alexander of Alexandria, that Yeshua(PBUH) was the same as God.

This matter was settled, so to speak, during the First Nicaean Council, convened in 325AD by the Roman Emperor Constantine. The debate over this raged on for over two months, with one famous incident where Nicholas of Myra (later known as St Nicholas... Then later known as Santa Clause) assaulted Aruis over the matter. Ultimately, the matter was settled (with Constantine's "influence", I might add) and the view of Alexander (later St Alexander) was adopted as mainstream.

To speak on something like this, you must first know the history of it. Without it, you can never say you "know" something to be true.

 

[DRO]

you say ur a christian, so how can you seperate the son and the father when they make up 2 thrirds of who god really is?(son father and holy ghost) you sure ur not a jehovah witness?

bruh, i understand the trinity... But.. Did jesus not say that all men must come through him 2 get to the father... Ok

if thats the case, are youtelling me that i can knowingly pray to jesus christ, not even mention god, and everything will be ok?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Incorrect. The matter of whether Yeshua(PBUH) was, in fact, God or man was decided BY MEN, not by The Divine. Prior to the convening of the First Nicaean Council, there were two beliefs regarding Yeshua(PBUH)

The first was that of Arius, a church leader from Egypt. This belief was that the concept of Christ is that the Son of God did not always exist, but was created by, and is therefore distinct from and inferior to, God. There were, and still are, many that follow this. Indeed the reach of this view was quite widespread throughout the Mediterranean, as his followers had influence there and beyond.

The second was that of Alexander of Alexandria, that Yeshua(PBUH) was the same as God.

This matter was settled, so to speak, during the First Nicaean Council, convened in 325AD by the Roman Emperor Constantine. The debate over this raged on for over two months, with one famous incident where Nicholas of Myra (later known as St Nicholas... Then later known as Santa Clause) assaulted Aruis over the matter. Ultimately, the matter was settled (with Constantine's "influence", I might add) and the view of Alexander (later St Alexander) was adopted as mainstream.

To speak on something like this, you must first know the history of it. Without it, you can never say you "know" something to be true.

Coming from a muslim, I would expect such things. Repent and believe the gospel my brother.

 

[DRO]

1. The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ is God. It's called the trinity.

2. Knowingly and willingly Denying the deity of Christ really calls into account your salvation.

3. If you want understanding in regards to this issue, pray that the Lord will open up your heart, mind, and soul to this essential truth and then study His word to show yourself approved unto God.

DOu....

1. Im not deny'n christ or who he is.. but Jesus is not God.. plain and simple.. they are part of the trinity, but they are also different

2. are you saying that it is OK to just pray to jesus and not God?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

bruh, i understand the trinity... But.. Did jesus not say that all men must come through him 2 get to the father... Ok

if thats the case, are youtelling me that i can knowingly pray to jesus christ, not even mention god, and everything will be ok?

Insert pupu iz dro where philip is.

"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" John 14:9

When you pray to Jesus Christ, you are praying to God. Jesus Christ is God the Son and is Equal with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. 1x1x1=1.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

DOu....

1. Im not deny'n christ or who he is.. but Jesus is not God.. plain and simple.. they are part of the trinity, but they are also different
2. are you saying that it is OK to just pray to jesus and not God?

1. How do you explain Colossians 2:9. "For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."
How can Christ, who you say is not God, have the fullness of Diety dwelling in Him then? If there is only 1 God, how can this be?

2. When you pray in Jesus name, He is the intercessor between God and man. Your praying to God my friend.

 

[DRO]

... When people are in church and they say "thank you jesus"....

Is that not praising christ and not god?.... Honest question

 

[DRO]

insert pupu iz dro where philip is.

"jesus saith unto him, have i been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the father; and how sayest thou then, shew us the father?" john 14:9

when you pray to jesus christ, you are praying to god. Jesus christ is god the son and is equal with god the father and god the holy spirit. 1x1x1=1.

listen bro..

I understand the whole, you go through jesus to get to god thing...

But

im talkin bout those that dont personally acknowlege god the father and just mention/pray/talk to the son with out mention'n the father...is that a sin or not?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

... When people are in church and they say "thank you jesus"....

Is that not praising christ and not god?.... Honest question

"And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him." Colossians 3:17

 

[DRO]

"and whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the lord jesus, giving thanks to god and the father by him." colossians 3:17

once again, your example is including god.. Im talkin just straight jesus the son, no mention of the father.