Are men today really men? or boys? or something in between?

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I will comment after I read all this mumbo jumbo!
 
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The rest of the article....just read the bold red above if you want cliff notes.

But pre-adults differ in one major respect from adolescents. They write their own biographies, and they do it from scratch. Sociologists use the term "life script" to describe a particular society's ordering of life's large events and stages. Though such scripts vary across cultures, the archetypal plot is deeply rooted in our biological nature. The invention of adolescence did not change the large Roman numerals of the American script. Adults continued to be those who took over the primary tasks of the economy and culture. For women, the central task usually involved the day-to-day rearing of the next generation; for men, it involved protecting and providing for their wives and children. If you followed the script, you became an adult, a temporary custodian of the social order until your own old age and demise.

Unlike adolescents, however, pre-adults don't know what is supposed to come next. For them, marriage and parenthood come in many forms, or can be skipped altogether. In 1970, just 16% of Americans ages 25 to 29 had never been married; today that's true of an astonishing 55% of the age group. In the U.S., the mean age at first marriage has been climbing toward 30 (a point past which it has already gone in much of Europe). It is no wonder that so many young Americans suffer through a "quarter-life crisis," a period of depression and worry over their future.

Given the rigors of contemporary career-building, pre-adults who do marry and start families do so later than ever before in human history. Husbands, wives and children are a drag on the footloose life required for the early career track and identity search. Pre-adulthood has also confounded the primordial search for a mate. It has delayed a stable sense of identity, dramatically expanded the pool of possible spouses, mystified courtship routines and helped to throw into doubt the very meaning of marriage. In 1970, to cite just one of many numbers proving the point, nearly seven in 10 25-year-olds were married; by 2000, only one-third had reached that milestone.

American men have been struggling with finding an acceptable adult identity since at least the mid-19th century. We often hear about the miseries of women confined to the domestic sphere once men began to work in offices and factories away from home. But it seems that men didn't much like the arrangement either. They balked at the stuffy propriety of the bourgeois parlor, as they did later at the banal activities of the suburban living room. They turned to hobbies and adventures, like hunting and fishing. At midcentury, fathers who at first had refused to put down the money to buy those newfangled televisions changed their minds when the networks began broadcasting boxing matches and baseball games. The arrival of Playboy in the 1950s seemed like the ultimate protest against male domestication; think of the refusal implied by the magazine's title alone.

In his disregard for domestic life, the playboy was prologue for today's pre-adult male. Unlike the playboy with his jazz and art-filled pad, however, our boy rebel is a creature of the animal house. In the 1990s, Maxim, the rude, lewd and hugely popular "lad" magazine arrived from England. Its philosophy and tone were so juvenile, so entirely undomesticated, that it made Playboy look like Camus.

At the same time, young men were tuning in to cable channels like Comedy Central, the Cartoon Network and Spike, whose shows reflected the adolescent male preferences of its targeted male audiences. They watched movies with overgrown boy actors like Steve Carell, Luke and Owen Wilson, Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, Will Farrell and Seth Rogen, cheering their awesome car crashes, fart jokes, breast and crotch shots, beer pong competitions and other frat-boy pranks. Americans had always struck foreigners as youthful, even childlike, in their energy and optimism. But this was too much.

What explains this puerile shallowness? I see it as an expression of our cultural uncertainty about the social role of men. It's been an almost universal rule of civilization that girls became women simply by reaching physical maturity, but boys had to pass a test. They needed to demonstrate courage, physical prowess or mastery of the necessary skills. The goal was to prove their competence as protectors and providers. Today, however, with women moving ahead in our advanced economy, husbands and fathers are now optional, and the qualities of character men once needed to play their roles—fortitude, stoicism, courage, fidelity—are obsolete, even a little embarrassing.

Today's pre-adult male is like an actor in a drama in which he only knows what he shouldn't say. He has to compete in a fierce job market, but he can't act too bossy or self-confident. He should be sensitive but not paternalistic, smart but not cocky. To deepen his predicament, because he is single, his advisers and confidants are generally undomesticated guys just like him.

Single men have never been civilization's most responsible actors; they continue to be more troubled and less successful than men who deliberately choose to become husbands and fathers. So we can be disgusted if some of them continue to live in rooms decorated with "Star Wars" posters and crushed beer cans and to treat women like disposable estrogen toys, but we shouldn't be surprised.

Relatively affluent, free of family responsibilities, and entertained by an array of media devoted to his every pleasure, the single young man can live in pig heaven—and often does. Women put up with him for a while, but then in fear and disgust either give up on any idea of a husband and kids or just go to a sperm bank and get the DNA without the troublesome man. But these rational choices on the part of women only serve to legitimize men's attachment to the sand box. Why should they grow up? No one needs them anyway. There's nothing they have to do.

They might as well just have another beer.
 
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so where do you fit into all of this t/s?

just curious
 
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i bet that bitch dont cook/do the laundry/go down
 
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Read 90% of this. it just proved that women still don't know what they want.
 
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I read the whole thing.

She is basically complaining about men liking video games, adult swim , etc, and says men shouldn't be in to kid stuff like that, and sums up the article talking about how women don't need men.
 
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When dudes back in the day started dippin out on the fam more and more
When bitter ass women started raisin kids by themselves (some by CHOICE)
When the fem nazi movement took womens rights and turned into men ain't shit campaigns
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that was the start of these irresponsible niggas today. But at the same time, I bet you this chick has chosen to date the same loser over and over again, just in a different dude. So somebody needs to ask her, if women keep bitchin about this stuff but keep givin it up to these same type dudes, then yeah, why should them niggas wanna change?
 
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People evolve just as cultures evolve.
 
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Dude going in.

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she wrote this. lmao gee i wonder why she cant find a man?????
 
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Feminist propaganda.

This bitch 40+ complaining about men in their 20s. SMH.
 
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Society is funny man...for real. For the last 30 years, they've beat down us men & taught us to suppress our manhood to appease women & their "equality insecurity". For an example, just take a look at TV. Most males are portrayed as bumbling idiots who can't tie their shoes without asking his wife first. The wife is portrayed as the domineering, matriarch of the household & its cool. No one gotta problem with the wife being the "man" in the house, its cute........but, if there's a show about a man playing that role, it's considered controlling. Its disgusting.

You can't have it both ways. You can't socialize a generation of males since birth to piss sitting down then get upset 20 years later when the man you about to marry aint as tough as your great grandfather was. Men need to get back to being men. Men need to get the fuck outta here with that "we equal" shit & go back to running shit like we were meant to do. Men need to stop asking permission from women to be men, which is truly the only reason we've allowed our society to become so feminized in the first place, because we're afraid to upset women & their fear of being controlled/dictated to. Shit has become utterly disgusting. Might have to move across seas.

I can't stand a fuckin feminist. Bra burning bitches wanted equality about as much as Hitler wanted world peace
 
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Maalik;2113255 said:
Society is funny man...for real. For the last 30 years, they've beat down us men & taught us to suppress our manhood to appease women & their "equality insecurity". For an example, just take a look at TV. Most males are portrayed as bumbling idiots who can't tie their shoes without asking his wife first. The wife is portrayed as the domineering, matriarch of the household & its cool. No one gotta problem with the wife being the "man" in the house, its cute........but, if there's a show about a man playing that role, it's considered controlling. Its disgusting.

You can't have it both ways. You can't socialize a generation of males since birth to piss sitting down then get upset 20 years later when the man you about to marry aint as tough as your great grandfather was. Men need to get back to being men. Men need to get the fuck outta here with that "we equal" shit & go back to running shit like we were meant to do. Men need to stop asking permission from women to be men, which is truly the only reason we've allowed our society to become so feminized in the first place, because we're afraid to upset women & their fear of being controlled/dictated to. Shit has become utterly disgusting. Might have to move across seas.

I can't stand a fuckin feminist. Bra burning bitches wanted equality about as much as Hitler wanted world peace

I really have no problem with the generation of men,the economic realities of globalism,

makes dude have to focus on the career or not wanna get married, dudes dont have to be super

masculine any more its practically pointlees, whats the point of being the boss if yo girl make 100k yr.
 
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And are women really women these days? Cause some of these broads lookin like Don Cheadle with a wig on. Women are losing their feminine features, they body be off the chain but their face look like it been beat with a chain.
 
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gorilla;2113111 said:
When dudes back in the day started dippin out on the fam more and more

When bitter ass women started raisin kids by themselves (some by CHOICE)

When the fem nazi movement took womens rights and turned into men ain't shit campaigns

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that was the start of these irresponsible niggas today. But at the same time, I bet you this chick has chosen to date the same loser over and over again, just in a different dude. So somebody needs to ask her, if women keep bitchin about this stuff but keep givin it up to these same type dudes, then yeah, why should them niggas wanna change?

Right,men act accordingly to what women are attracted to.These same complaining broads encouraged the irresponsible actions of males from high school to college and then wonder why men are the way they are.Women keep messing with those type of men,so it's something juvenile about their mind state that attracts them to immature men.
 
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And that's why you have all these sissy boys running around out here, because some women on here have said they want a feminine looking man, the fuck
 
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Just look around you. It started with the metrosexual and reached its peak "Game" and "Pick up aritist" culture. It's like men today are stuck in a perpetual adolescence of chasing pootang. Can't really say who's at fault because a unique set of causes evolved to what we have now. Every time you turn on the radio it's about SWAG with niggas trying to be prettier then females. The pressures of sexual imbalance creates a atmosphere for a cultural stand still. As much as femanist would disagree progress is built on the foundation of patriarchy. The nuclear family provides the means necessary to carry on the legacy of civilization. But now men are like peacocks. As long as they can flash their tail feathers enough to attract a mate for a nut they're good. Niggas are no longer compelled to mature into self actualization in a culture that caters to just our base lizard brain instinct
 
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Eff reading all that lol.

But honestly, some men grow up lacking that male mentor in their lives who sets an example of what a man should be and how a man should act.

Really, it's deeper than that but I don't want to write an essay on here lol
 
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fuck that bitch i can play playstation and watch cartoons all i want, go get a dildo and stop bothering me. i can be a man and still enjoy that shit and fuck women that dont expect me to be some type of over mature sophisticated lumberjack asshole.
 
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Mad Jack;2113611 said:
Right,men act accordingly to what women are attracted to.These same complaining broads encouraged the irresponsible actions of males from high school to college and then wonder why men are the way they are.Women keep messing with those type of men,so it's something juvenile about their mind state that attracts them to immature men.

The bold......
 
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