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D-Marco;1502427 said:U gotta explain this more. I think I know what ur trying to say... but elaborate
The_Introvert;1502540 said:Black Americans as a whole don't really practice sexual chastity so that renders your theory invalid.
Coby Vibes;1502573 said:do you need me to define sexual predator? I am asking if black men are sexual predators, preying on black women(girls) for their sexual gratification and not much else. (the objectification, misogyny, etc) we hear the stories of running trains and all the different tactics, trickery, gimmicks men use to manipulate, coerce, scare and force women(girls) to have sex with them. many women are victims of date rape and/or molestation some form of sexual trauma.
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I am asking if this is due to a dynamic that is predetermined by our socialization in which we raise our daughters to be chaste and our sons to be aggressive so the only way our boys are able to get the sex their "manhood" is dependent on is by employing the above named tactics resulting in our girls being sexually traumatized. this of course leading to another set of social concerns
am I clearer?
D-Marco;1502737 said:WHy U always mad tho? The same can be said for Men in general. Why it gotta be black men? Do we support misogyny more than other races...maybe. But on the flipside black females are objectified because they grow up looking up to hoes. Whether directly or indirectly society pushes that agenda on both sides.
Coby Vibes;1502934 said:accusing me of being mad is convenient. i have nothing to be mad about. whenever men are challenged "intellectually" (with something thought provoking)by a woman on relationships they default to an emotional accusation such as the woman being angry, bitter and jaded when I havent even indicated any experience that would even cause me to be such.
the reason it is geared to black men is because that is who I know and care about. dont give two shits about the others. I am asking direct and specific questions.
I dont wanna hear your flipside until you can address what was directed to you. and the questions you are asking me without first answering the original question is a deflection.
D-Marco;1503028 said:No I said you were angry by the way ur post was worded, not as a deflection. Black men are more aggressive, yes. I wouldnt go as far as to say predators though. Thats way to broad of a generalization.
But I agree with ur 2nd post up until the sexually traumatized part. Women objectify and prey on men too. Its a cycle that men employ only because its effective and women feed into the trickery and games. Case in point...if women didnt date drug dealers and thug niggas.... it wouldnt be as accepted.
U word this as if women are somehow victims. If anything women are victims of sexual repression causing them to cling to sexually aggressive niggas
Coby Vibes;1503134 said:you act like woman being victims are far fetched. women are victimized by men on a global scale and to try to discount that is to be in denial. denial hinders and thwarts progress and progression.
and your last comment is something to think about. and that is why I asked previously asked if this type socialization is the cause. but you say cling as if to absolve men of the responsibility of their aggression. one would not need to cling to someone aggressive, the aggressor preys.
again which is why i say it may even be UNKNOWINGLY because it is something passed down
D-Marco;1503342 said:Im not saying women cant be victimized, but I wouldnt say that applies to dating per se. How do u feel women are victimized specifically?
Its not about alleviating men from responsibility. We are aggresive because thats the dynamic between men/women. We're taught to approach women, get their numbers, ask them on dates, make the move for sex...to sum it up, to control the interaction.
I wouldnt say women are victimized for that alone because they encourage that behavior. Thats like saying deers are attracted to hunters.
Coby Vibes;1503443 said:but I didnt make analogy... you did by saying women cling to aggressive men. it was a silly analogy. I agree that that behavior is taught but my question is does it set up that type of dynamic.
who is the "they" that encourage this behavior? women or society, a patriarchal one at that...
and I believe i gave specific examples of the victimization when you asked for clarity the FIRST time
D-Marco;1503529 said:Women dont want to be persued agressively but also dont want to do the persuing. Cant have it both ways. But sexual predator is extreme. Women have things naturally ingrained in them that triggers them to be attracted to a nigga and some men naturally convey those things. So we're the hunters, ur the prey.
What about women being taught to play coy even when they like a dude? Again.... thats just the male/female dynamic.