Anyone caught the diss to 50 Cent on Murder to Excellence?

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usmarin3;3332045 said:
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Very subliminal diss, he is calling 50 Cent a crab in the barrel dude for the shit he did or try to do to rappers career (Lox,Fat Joe,Game,Buck,Cam,etc). I didn't even catch it till now.

wit tha exception of jeffery, u cant blame 50 for those cats downfall..
 
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Jay's success in general is a diss to 50. Jay got smart with his money and stayed positive, 50 attacked everyone and blackballed himself.
 
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Great drop from a quality poster.

I agree 100% with those lyrical gems, it's not the first time a respected emcee has called out 50-cent for his "Crab" mentality and divisive behaviors.

Most recently Diddy called him a "hating ass CRAB", and Fabolous shared similar setiments.

...the line is almost a double-entrende because "crab" is also used as a disrespectful word for Crips (Cuzz).
 
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usmarin3;3332045 said:
"if you put crabs in a barrel to ensure your survival, you gonna end up pulling down niggas who look like you"

Then he adds the "what up blood, what up cuz" from the 50 Cent joint WHAT UP GANGSTA?

Very subliminal diss, he is calling 50 Cent a crab in the barrel dude for the shit he did or try to do to rappers career (Lox,Fat Joe,Game,Buck,Cam,etc). I didn't even catch it till now.

Damn, i never caught that before. Your post is on point...

...Murder to Excellence is the best song on WTT.

Edit: i briefly thought that was a subliminal diss once i heard "what up blood, what up cuz", but i dismissed it shortly after.
 
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dan_the_man.com;3332066 said:
wit tha exception of jeffery, u cant blame 50 for those cats downfall..

So Styles P deserved to have his project black-balled because Jadakiss appeared with Ja Rule in the New York video?

Fat Joe deserved to be mocked and teased in comic-videos because he appeared with Ka Rule in the New York video?

...what did Game do? What did Buck do that warranted 50 to attempt to sabotage his career by secretly recording a private convo and releasing it to the net?
 
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Disciplined InSight;3332107 said:
Nah..it's not a reach. That's actually a pretty well executed subliminal, even though it's getting tired.

Its a general statement as well..

Jay sets niggas up to interpt his lyrics how they please..

He could also be talkin about crips and bloods killing each other for nothing..
 
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thatni99ajahmal;3332137 said:
He could also be talkin about crips and bloods killing each other for nothing..

Which would also make sense given the theme of the song.
 
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i agree, and 2 add on that u may have a case, but the issue is not whether jiggaz is throwin shots at fiddy it's subjective n datz debatable it's that ya azz is listening to jay-z 2 hard, fall back son...
he could b talkin about the bloods n crips (gangs in general)... who merk each otha ova the pettiest shyt...
 
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birdcallaveli;3332146 said:
reaching. why would jay diss 50 and mess up this money?

What money is Jay messing up? Fif is neither a threat nor an asset to Jay at this point.
 
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this is a feasible thought but more then likely about some of our brethen inherent need to pull each other down
 
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thatni99ajahmal;3332137 said:
Its a general statement as well..

Jay sets niggas up to interpt his lyrics how they please..

He could also be talkin about crips and bloods killing each other for nothing..

exactly....i always look for gems Jay may drop, that u might not catch for a few months/years, but....yall niggas reachin.
 
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DMTxCannabis;3332159 said:
Why would Jay diss Wayne and Birdman and mess up his money?

im just going by the fact that jay said he wouldnt diss 50 because it would mess his money up.

and jays BEEN dissing wayne and baby ever since wayne turned down jays roc deal and re-signed with baby.
 
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thatni99ajahmal;3332137 said:
Its a general statement as well..

Jay sets niggas up to interpt his lyrics how they please..

He could also be talkin about crips and bloods killing each other for nothing..

And Jay's using the "what up Blood, what up cuz" line from "What Up Gangsta" happens to be an accident, huh?
 
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DMTxCannabis;3332159 said:
Why would Jay diss Wayne and Birdman and mess up his money?

He didnt it was another general statement..

That line can be said about every nigga in the rap game compared to Jay-Z that nigga be baiting ppl with general statements lol he clever as hell

Disciplined InSight;3332211 said:
And Jay's using the "what up Blood, what up cuz" line from "What Up Gangsta" happens to be an accident, huh?

Hmmm its not an accident if he is truly speakin on gang violence which seems to be the theme of thse song imo..
 
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Smo-King Locs;3332158 said:
i agree, and 2 add on that u may have a case, but the issue is not whether jiggaz is throwin shots at fiddy it's subjective n datz debatable it's that ya azz is listening to jay-z 2 hard, fall back son...
he could b talkin about the bloods n crips (gangs in general)... who merk each otha ova the pettiest shyt...

Which in general would be a diss to Wayne, Jeey, Game and all the other rap-bangers who use the gang-bang gimmick to sell street-cred to suburbanites.

That song was vintage Hov not Euro-Jay, and I promise when he does some joints with J Electronica he's gonna bless us with more of that Gumbo we love.
 
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