A Miami woman killed a teen burglar as he fled her home, police say. Should she be charged?

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Don't put yourself in a situation like that if you don't want to die. Saying she was wrong to shoot him takes away from the people who where actually wrongfully killed. He could've said I'm not doing this tonight and went home.
 
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

 
Here's the applicable statute, the part in bold is the "stand your ground" provision.

The parts in bold and italicized is the standard. If the homeowner reasonably believed it was necessary to use deadly force to prevent a commission of felony, there's not a crime here.

Its tough to call because all the facts are not known...

776.031. Use or threatened use of force in defense of property

(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.
 
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xxCivicxx;8855785 said:
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

This the type of thing that confuses me. Because niggas disagree with your outlook on it and view it differently...the never earned anything?

Maybe niggas just disagree.
 
And in FLA the act of entering someones property is burglary. You don't need to take anything, as soon as he crossed the threshold of her home he committed burglary. The circumstances will determine whether its 1st, 2nd or 3rd degree...
 
Copper;8854959 said:
https://youtu.be/2ZGSQXmJPaQ

Get'em Nautica

LOL @ "they don't understand why she felt the need to take matters into her own hands and not wait for the police"

As if the police would have showed up with cookies and offered the kid a job and mentorship. Nah they woulda shot his ass 15 times instead of once.
 
thegreatunknown;8855819 said:
Here's the applicable statute, the part in bold is the "stand your ground" provision.

The parts in bold and italicized is the standard. If the homeowner reasonably believed it was necessary to use deadly force to prevent a commission of felony, there's not a crime here.

Its tough to call because all the facts are not known...

776.031. Use or threatened use of force in defense of property

(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

I'll do you one better from Florida State's Statues concerning their castle doctrine laws (which are some of the strongest in the nation)

776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—

(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

(b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.


In the eyes of the law she looks to be in the clear. If you break into people's houses you might die...end of story.
 
Stiff;8855874 said:
thegreatunknown;8855819 said:
Here's the applicable statute, the part in bold is the "stand your ground" provision.

The parts in bold and italicized is the standard. If the homeowner reasonably believed it was necessary to use deadly force to prevent a commission of felony, there's not a crime here.

Its tough to call because all the facts are not known...

776.031. Use or threatened use of force in defense of property

(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

I'll do you one better from Florida State's Statues concerning their castle doctrine laws (which are some of the strongest in the nation)

776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—

(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

(b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.


In the eyes of the law she looks to be in the clear. If you break into people's houses you might die...end of story.

Yeah that's applicable too, the defense attorney would have tried to argue against the "held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death" in (1) though...
 
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mryounggun;8855837 said:
xxCivicxx;8855785 said:
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

This the type of thing that confuses me. Because niggas disagree with your outlook on it and view it differently...the never earned anything?

Maybe niggas just disagree.

How can you say that you're ok with someone breaking into your property and stealing things that you earned?

That doesn't make sense to me
 
thegreatunknown;8855886 said:
Stiff;8855874 said:
thegreatunknown;8855819 said:
Here's the applicable statute, the part in bold is the "stand your ground" provision.

The parts in bold and italicized is the standard. If the homeowner reasonably believed it was necessary to use deadly force to prevent a commission of felony, there's not a crime here.

Its tough to call because all the facts are not known...

776.031. Use or threatened use of force in defense of property

(1) A person is justified in using or threatening to use force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on, or other tortious or criminal interference with, either real property other than a dwelling or personal property, lawfully in his or her possession or in the possession of another who is a member of his or her immediate family or household or of a person whose property he or she has a legal duty to protect. A person who uses or threatens to use force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat before using or threatening to use such force.

(2) A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force only if he or she reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

I'll do you one better from Florida State's Statues concerning their castle doctrine laws (which are some of the strongest in the nation)

776.013 Home protection; use or threatened use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.—

(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using or threatening to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if:

(a) The person against whom the defensive force was used or threatened was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person’s will from the dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle; and

(b) The person who uses or threatens to use defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.


In the eyes of the law she looks to be in the clear. If you break into people's houses you might die...end of story.

Yeah that's applicable too, the defense attorney would have tried to argue against the "held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death" in (1) though...

The news report said that there was some sort of confrontation before she shot..and since he was shot in the chest and not the back they could just paint the picture that she came home and found him there and had no idea what he was going to do or what he was armed with and he came at her so she fired off in defense of her self and her home.

I don't see her getting charged here
 
xxCivicxx;8855905 said:
mryounggun;8855837 said:
xxCivicxx;8855785 said:
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

This the type of thing that confuses me. Because niggas disagree with your outlook on it and view it differently...the never earned anything?

Maybe niggas just disagree.

How can you say that you're ok with someone breaking into your property and stealing things that you earned?

That doesn't make sense to me

Show me where I said I'm ok with people stealing things I've earned.
 
mryounggun;8855974 said:
xxCivicxx;8855905 said:
mryounggun;8855837 said:
xxCivicxx;8855785 said:
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

This the type of thing that confuses me. Because niggas disagree with your outlook on it and view it differently...the never earned anything?

Maybe niggas just disagree.

How can you say that you're ok with someone breaking into your property and stealing things that you earned?

That doesn't make sense to me

Show me where I said I'm ok with people stealing things I've earned.

You're condoning him stealing by placing blame on the homeowner
 
xxCivicxx;8855994 said:
mryounggun;8855974 said:
xxCivicxx;8855905 said:
mryounggun;8855837 said:
xxCivicxx;8855785 said:
Clearly a lot of you niggas have never EARNED a single thing in your life

There's shit I own that would be basically worthless to anyone else that I would STILL kill over because of the emotional attachment

You break into anything I own you're gambling with your life though period

This the type of thing that confuses me. Because niggas disagree with your outlook on it and view it differently...the never earned anything?

Maybe niggas just disagree.

How can you say that you're ok with someone breaking into your property and stealing things that you earned?

That doesn't make sense to me

Show me where I said I'm ok with people stealing things I've earned.

You're condoning him stealing by placing blame on the homeowner

Show me where I condoned him stealing.
 

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