A black professor offers advice ‘For White Folks Who Teach in the Hood’

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“That’s simple. That doesn’t require an iPad and coding. That just requires making the space for young people who are experiencing your teaching to give you suggestions on how to do it better,” he said.

The result, he said, is that the students know that their teacher cares what they think. The teacher gets professional development from people who are watching him work day in and day out. And the dynamic in the classroom begins to shift.

“It can change the game,” he said.

Emdin also suggests giving each student responsibilities in the classroom, so they know they have something important to contribute to the group. And he says it’s critical for teachers not only to allow students to be themselves, but also to teach them how to code-switch — how to be “social chameleons” who can navigate other cultures, too.

He urges teachers to leave their schools and get to know their students as three-dimensional people outside the classroom, and to know their communities as places that are not bereft of advantages but filled with strength.

It’s an approach that takes a lot of time, he acknowledges. “But you know what’s harder work? Yelling at kids all day. It’s easier work to just go observe the kids, hang out with the kids and use that to change your teaching,” he said.

He describes taking a white teacher to a black Pentecostal church to see how skillfully the preacher engaged the congregation, and how the preacher managed to have a plan for the service – and to depart from the plan when the energy in the room demanded it. “The preacher’s ability to have control over the service while allowing the congregants to guide his preaching can be replicated in the classroom,” Emdin wrote.

Emdin learned many of the lessons he is now trying to impart when he began his career teaching middle-school science in the Bronx.

“My first two years were a disaster,” he said. He was teaching in the community where he grew up. He knew the slang and the music. Yet he still couldn’t connect with his students.

“I had those challenges. Could you imagine somebody who did not come from that community? There’s no way you can tell me that person is going in there not having some sort of cultural barrier,” he said.

It wasn’t until he shed his idea of what a teacher was supposed to do, and started being himself, that things turned around. He began playing basketball after school with his students. They talked about all kinds of things, easily, and the connection translated into the classroom.

“My teaching improved. My students reacted differently, test scores increased, I didn’t have to yell anymore,” he said.

That’s what he hopes his book will be able to give other teachers who are struggling to connect with their students — even if the title, or some of the ideas, are difficult to stomach. When a white graduate student at Columbia, wrestling with his ideas about the failures of white teachers, asked him if she should stop teaching and go into policy, he said no.

“What you do is understand that the tension that you’re feeling is not a negative thing,” he said. “Anything that helps us collectively grow will at some point make us feel uncomfortable. I think tension is actually the seedbed for growth.”

 
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?
 
I refuse to believe a blacl child can't comprehend math or science because a white person is teaching it. 2+2 is the same regardless of race or gender, its pointless to go through all these extras.

Environment is important. Where the school is, the kinds of children that attend, the financing of the school, the quality of the teacher and the techniques all matter. Those are the most important concepts.

Give each kid a chance to learn. Give them a chance to ask questions, get engaged and challenged mentally you will see results.
 
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

That's my biggest issue with our people, why do we ask them for anything or to do anything, like they are supposed to or even want to do something positive for a poc
 
jetlifebih;8938306 said:
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

That's my biggest issue with our people, why do we ask them for anything or to do anything, like they are supposed to or even want to do something positive for a poc

He's not asking them for anything. White teachers WILL be in urban schools..he's just providing a bit of insight to those willing to hear him out. There are white people that aren't willfully ignorant, they are just ignorant because they haven't been enlightened. Why not teach them something?

The advice is solid.
 
It's here and now with concrete detailed plan and showing why they cannot connect with the students and he even inserts his life experiences on how his first two years was horrible because he couldn't connect with the students even though he grew up in the same neighborhood until he made himself more personal and observed his students on a human level. I mean that is common sense, but at the same time some people who aren't part of the same culture get scared or ignorant of what to actually to interact with their students.
 
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

I think you're missing the point. He's simply recognizing that there are white people teaching in schools that cater to blacks and hispanics. He's trying to instruct them on how to deal with that and help the children despite the cultural gap.
 
Kat;8938417 said:
jetlifebih;8938306 said:
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

That's my biggest issue with our people, why do we ask them for anything or to do anything, like they are supposed to or even want to do something positive for a poc

He's not asking them for anything. White teachers WILL be in urban schools..he's just providing a bit of insight to those willing to hear him out. There are white people that aren't willfully ignorant, they are just ignorant because they haven't been enlightened. Why not teach them something?

The advice is solid.

First of all you need to check your got dam tone...I know white people will be in the hood teachin/conditioning/brainwashing y'all rape ,rob and murder people collectively, so teaching/conditioning/brainwashing the children using the work of racist cacs to the same people you rape rob and murder is not far fetched,so don't say white teachers WILL be in the urban schools like you made a point....

Second are you telling me that he is not asking teachers to switch up their methods from teaching that racist , boring shit they teach now to include the culture of the children they are teaching?? To get to know he students outside of the classroom and in their environments?? To connect with them since they are humans you know and not just a name on a peice of paper?

My post was a response to bapelipsss in agreement with her/his idea to focus on reaching other black teachers instead of cacs, we don't need y'all ignorant or englightened as you would call it... Teaching our children.....again we don't send rape victims to their rapist for treatment so we shouldn't be sending our children to learn from the people who caused the most damage to them and their family

Now miiiiinnnnd ya bidness just miiiinnnddd ya bidness
 
I don't need to check shit..grow up.

And after reading the rest of your post, I'm not about to argue with you.

All white people are racist, all white teachers head to urban schools in effort to condition and brainwash..you got it.
 
jetlifebih;8938532 said:
Kat;8938417 said:
jetlifebih;8938306 said:
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

That's my biggest issue with our people, why do we ask them for anything or to do anything, like they are supposed to or even want to do something positive for a poc

He's not asking them for anything. White teachers WILL be in urban schools..he's just providing a bit of insight to those willing to hear him out. There are white people that aren't willfully ignorant, they are just ignorant because they haven't been enlightened. Why not teach them something?

The advice is solid.

First of all you need to check your got dam tone...I know white people will be in the hood teachin/conditioning/brainwashing y'all rape ,rob and murder people collectively, so teaching/conditioning/brainwashing the children using the work of racist cacs to the same people you rape rob and murder is not far fetched,so don't say white teachers WILL be in the urban schools like you made a point....

Second are you telling me that he is not asking teachers to switch up their methods from teaching that racist , boring shit they teach now to include the culture of the children they are teaching?? To get to know he students outside of the classroom and in their environments?? To connect with them since they are humans you know and not just a name on a peice of paper?

My post was a response to bapelipsss in agreement with her/his idea to focus on reaching other black teachers instead of cacs, we don't need y'all ignorant or englightened as you would call it... Teaching our children.....again we don't send rape victims to their rapist for treatment so we shouldn't be sending our children to learn from the people who caused the most damage to them and their family

Now miiiiinnnnd ya bidness just miiiinnnddd ya bidness

The biggest question is how are we gonna organized to developed institutions of learning facilities and how we will direct our curriculum? Everyone says this, but the fact of this is we don't have a team to organized this at all and his book is clearly here and now. He is not saying this is the model for all time, but this will not be an overnight and possibly not even a ten or twenty year plan.

This is why the conscious community and such needs to actually developed a community that is physical to developed their ideas and traditions and understanding and grow from there. I believed if you do that, then black Americans are gonna come because they see fruit right now, not words.

Oh, what did you think of Polight interview when he says he will not debate Oya Ma'at.
 
Kat;8938548 said:
I don't need to check shit..grow up.

And after reading the rest of your post, I'm not about to argue with you.

All white people are racist, all white teachers head to urban schools in effort to condition and brainwash..you got it.

You responded to my post by first saying white teachers WILL be in urban schools like I said they were not or they were not supposed to....so i feel like your saying regardless of how people feel white people will go where they want....maybe I'm reaching but I see no other logical reason to capitalize will and that's insensitive imo

And in typical kat fashion you selectively pick words from my post and apply them to fucked up statements to make it seem like I'm the crazy one I said

teaching / Conditioning / Brainwash

Out of three choices you chose the 2 negative ones......then say your not going to argue with me as if I want to or It's not 420 and there isn't plenty of weed to be rolled up....

i never said all white people in my post, so don't put words in my post
 
It always amazed me how when we were segregated we had scientists and doctors ect. coming out of these schools that these integrationist claimed to be inferior, but now we integrated and their is probably more niggas who can't read now than their was back then
 
That's how you took it. I was just stating the fact of the matter, hence my emphasis on the word will. They have been and they WILL be teaching in urban schools.

I'm all for someone attempting to make that a better situation for the children, I don't see how someone could find fault in that, but hey..this the IC.
 
Ajackson17;8938580 said:
jetlifebih;8938532 said:
Kat;8938417 said:
jetlifebih;8938306 said:
babelipsss;8938166 said:
Smh. Always trying to get "them" to play nice and take care of us. Why not write a book to encourage black people to get more involved and lead in the services we need everyday?

That's my biggest issue with our people, why do we ask them for anything or to do anything, like they are supposed to or even want to do something positive for a poc

He's not asking them for anything. White teachers WILL be in urban schools..he's just providing a bit of insight to those willing to hear him out. There are white people that aren't willfully ignorant, they are just ignorant because they haven't been enlightened. Why not teach them something?

The advice is solid.

First of all you need to check your got dam tone...I know white people will be in the hood teachin/conditioning/brainwashing y'all rape ,rob and murder people collectively, so teaching/conditioning/brainwashing the children using the work of racist cacs to the same people you rape rob and murder is not far fetched,so don't say white teachers WILL be in the urban schools like you made a point....

Second are you telling me that he is not asking teachers to switch up their methods from teaching that racist , boring shit they teach now to include the culture of the children they are teaching?? To get to know he students outside of the classroom and in their environments?? To connect with them since they are humans you know and not just a name on a peice of paper?

My post was a response to bapelipsss in agreement with her/his idea to focus on reaching other black teachers instead of cacs, we don't need y'all ignorant or englightened as you would call it... Teaching our children.....again we don't send rape victims to their rapist for treatment so we shouldn't be sending our children to learn from the people who caused the most damage to them and their family

Now miiiiinnnnd ya bidness just miiiinnnddd ya bidness

The biggest question is how are we gonna organized to developed institutions of learning facilities and how we will direct our curriculum? Everyone says this, but the fact of this is we don't have a team to organized this at all and his book is clearly here and now. He is not saying this is the model for all time, but this will not be an overnight and possibly not even a ten or twenty year plan.

This is why the conscious community and such needs to actually developed a community that is physical to developed their ideas and traditions and understanding and grow from there. I believed if you do that, then black Americans are gonna come because they see fruit right now, not words.

Oh, what did you think of Polight interview when he says he will not debate Oya Ma'at.

We have to organize under 1 understanding, right now the only common understanding we have is that we are and have been oppressed by Europeans, even in that understanding there is misunderstanding, like some blacks do not believe that there is an issue with race, some blacks don't believe they are black, but as far as building , we have to come together, in the past we have tried only to be reminded of the world we live in, it's funny because I was listening to Ricky smiley this am and there was a joke about an all black state called "missalageorgialina" or some shit close but that's we need ,unity and numbers before we can build something that will last and stand the test of oppression , so we need numbers with one understanding

As far as bropro and dr ma'at, I didn't see the interview, what would the debate topic be? I don't think a debate is needed but I'd love to see a discussion between the two that would be very insightful

What about you?

 
ghostdog56;8938702 said:
It always amazed me how when we were segregated we had scientists and doctors ect. coming out of these schools that these integrationist claimed to be inferior, but now we integrated and their is probably more niggas who can't read now than their was back then

I agree. They produced many great scholars and researchers and scientists and thinkers. Today we have Yada, Young Pharoah and a few others are introducing pseudo sciences that can actually kill us and they are dangerous. Even the European communities they see their white counter parts as the most dangerous individuals not because they are giving truth, but falsehoods that can wipe out their power through ignorance.
 
Kat;8938704 said:
That's how you took it. I was just stating the fact of the matter, hence my emphasis on the word will. They have been and they WILL be teaching in urban schools.

I'm all for someone attempting to make that a better situation for the children, I don't see how someone could find fault in that, but hey..this the IC.

You stated an obvious fact that I wasn't arguing against so again what logical reason would it be to state the obvious??

whether or not white teachers are in the hood, and whether or not they will or won't be was not something I spoke towards

But Yeah they have and will be teaching in urban schools and urban school are doing how well according to statistics????

So a change in white teachers in urban areas is an idea for a start of a solution for children which you claimed to care about
 

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