mosincredible
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sigh...
Allah_U_Akbar
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This weirdo is completely obsessed with Jay-Z.
soul rattler
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DEFEND YO MAN WENDY CENT!
Ok, I'll entertain this BS.
Who bought all those Eminem records? What does an Eminem show look like? Who's shows have fans from all demographics and who's shows have mainly white kids with their parents (like a kiddy pop artists' concert)? Who appeals to a broad demographic and who mainly appeals to white adolescents? Who has set trends in this genre? Let's call a spade a spade. Which rapper has taken anything Eminem did and incorporated into his own sh*t (don't say "Stan" cuz Nas made it a term when he dissed Jigga in Ether" FOH)? Who has crossdressed on several occasions, made corny joints like "Big Weenie", "Fack" etc.?
Who bought all those Eminem records? What does an Eminem show look like? Who's shows have fans from all demographics and who's shows have mainly white kids with their parents (like a kiddy pop artists' concert)? Who appeals to a broad demographic and who mainly appeals to white adolescents? Who has set trends in this genre? Let's call a spade a spade. Which rapper has taken anything Eminem did and incorporated into his own sh*t (don't say "Stan" cuz Nas made it a term when he dissed Jigga in Ether" FOH)? Who has crossdressed on several occasions, made corny joints like "Big Weenie", "Fack" etc.?
Jaw Breaker;7315638 said:
No, because other white rappers aren't selling nearly as much as Eminem. Eminem definately got skills and he has worked hard for getting where he's at. I don't take nothing away from that fact.
He did sell alot more than his black counterparts due to him being white and he himself has owned up to this countless times (peep "White America" that came out 12 years ago). This ain't even up for debate.
Eminem selling that much is mainly due to black rappers giving him his needed cred (cosign), partially due to his skills and partially because that white demographic could relate to my dude more than they do to these black rappers.
He didn't set that much trends rapwise but 'culturally' he's had some impact IMO. Shawn made n*ggas dress up (switch from throwback jerseys to button ups), made X5's less popular (that "baby mama line"), killed that autotune bullsh*t (can't attribute it solely to "Death of autotune" but he did have a hand in killing that bullsh*t objectively speaking). Jay Z has had impact in the game.
Eventhough rapwise he didn't do nothing that wasn't done bfore he's had alot of soundalikes coming out a decade ago. Rappers like Sacario, Bathgate etc. and now you got that n*gga that raps with Birdgang. No rapper has come out and bit Eminem's style.
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I'm going to open a can of worms here but Benzino was right. Everything he predicted back in 03/04 happened. Eminem became the biggest selling artist in a genre that was created by blacks. That's what Benzino predicted was going to happen and then made the comparison to Elvis (and even Hitler?!?) how Elvis is considered the first Rock N Roll star but all he did was imitate Black musicians.
Yeah you can say Em's career was better than Benzino and how Benzino is a bitter old man, Nail in the Coffin yada yada yada.
Em can spit when he wants to. I was impressed by Rap God but I can't say that he'd beat Jay in a battle even though I gotta admit he came strong on Renegade.
Nasir would rap circles around Eminem. Cam, Sigel, Black Thought, Busta Rhymes and a few other people would make an interesting battle against Em If he was in Rap God mode...which isn't that often.
Yeah you can say Em's career was better than Benzino and how Benzino is a bitter old man, Nail in the Coffin yada yada yada.
Em can spit when he wants to. I was impressed by Rap God but I can't say that he'd beat Jay in a battle even though I gotta admit he came strong on Renegade.
Nasir would rap circles around Eminem. Cam, Sigel, Black Thought, Busta Rhymes and a few other people would make an interesting battle against Em If he was in Rap God mode...which isn't that often.
5 Grand;7315722 said:
It's not like he has to. He can litterally put out anything and it'll still sell just because of his name. That's why I referenced joints like "Big Weenie" and "Fack". Benzino was right in the sense that Eminem was and is playing by a different set of rules. He's had more 'creative freedom' so to speak. No mainstream black rapper could get away with releasing garbage like those joints I referenced, the crossdressing, corny, childish sh*t etc. in that era ('03/'04 when Benzino was going hard at that n*gga).
Zino was right on alot of things, but people discarded it because he was a wack mc, seemed bitter and wasn't impartial (playing around with that mic giving ratings, nepotism and sexual harassment cases up at The Source etc.).
I think Eminem and Sigel though in a rapbattle. They ain't seeing him line for line...
Muhannad X;7315671 said:
Ok I will agree em might sell more because he is white we can never know for sure it's all speculation, as far as jays trends I disagree, he was not the first rapper to "dress up" pac did that shit alot so did many other rappers.
From an mc point of view I would say em is better, I would explain in detail why but im just too lazy to type too much shit I need to get some sleep soon I need to be up in 5 hours, to each his own tho it's all personal preference.
Em is definitely the better technical rapper with the larger sales and may possibly gave a bigger legacy if he were to die today. All of these dudes look up to Jay at the end of the day. You can tell by listening to 50's earlier work that he was a Jay fan and he's even quoted his rhymes. And you can tell that Em respects Jay a lot like when he accepted that award back in 2002, what was his acceptance speech "Biggie Pac Jay and Nas are the reason why I do this".
Jaw Breaker;7315753 said:
While I can relate to Jay Z's music more, I think line for line he ain't seeing Eminem. I honestly don't think alot of rappers are seeing him line for line. What I like about him is he always keeping it hip hop. You can sense a genuine love for this genre. Watch "The art of rap" if you don't understand what I mean...
sapp08_2001
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True spit em is the best selling hip Hop artists next to tupac. However jay`s music>>>>EM
